Modern Agraharam near Hyderabad-Keep Out if you’re not Brahmin
Yesterday we saw Perumazhalakalam, a Malayalam film about a Muslim girl Razia, who must seek forgiveness for her husband Akbar from Ganga, the wife of a man Akbar has accidently killed in Saudi Arabia. Akbar is sentenced to death and his life can only be saved if Ganga consents to this. Ganga belongs to a Tamil Brahmin family that lives in an Agraharam in north Kerala.
Anyway, because of the film, I looked up Agraharams in google today. In my search I found some old news that I had missed, from 2007. Apparently a well off Brahmin doctor in Hyderabad is planning a modern Agraharam.
I found this Deccan Chronicle article posted on Sulekha and here is what it says:
From Deccan Chronicle:
Hyderabad, Nov. 26: A group of eminent Brahmins are setting up a 1,200-acre colony for the community in Siddipet of Medak district to resurrect the old Agraharam ambience. They include senior IAS, IPS, IFS and IRTS officers and journalists from the community. The Brahmin colony has been named Dhanwantari Agraharam and will have modern amenities including engineering and medical college, a super-specialty hospital, super markets, temples and an exclusive hall for rituals.This is the first ‘caste-based’ mega real estate venture in and around Hyderabad. In olden days kings and rulers used to donate lands to Brahmins to set up Agraharams. Similarly, the new venture is meant to bring Brahmins scattered all over the city to one colony to create “mutual understanding”. The ambitious project, being taken up by Dhanwantri Foundation International, will be ready in two years’ time. Plots have been allotted and construction will begin on the auspicious Pongal day in mid-January next year. The foundation has purchased 180 acres of land near Jadcherla in Mahbubnagar district and 1,200 acres near Siddipet with funds contributed by about 1,000 members.
Plots are being sold at Rs 150 a square yard as against the normal market value of Rs 1,500. Dr P. Kamalakara Sarma, managing trustee of the foundation, refused to divulge more about the project. “I am busy with my patients,” he said when contacted. However, his message on the foundation’s website says that the vote bank-based democracy of India had led the Brahmins to a pathetic situation, irrespective of their position. “The feeling of ego and so-called intellect has not allowed the community to function as a systematic organisation leaving individuals to suffer,” he further adds.
Despite the tall talk, poor Brahmins seem to have no place in this modern Agraharam. The 504 governing council members of the foundation will get land ranging between one and three acres and 400 donor members will get 1,000 square yards each. A senior IPS officer, who is on the board of trustees, said he had been briefed about the project though he did not buy a plot.
Here is another article on the same thing.
And here is the Dhanawantri Foundation website.
I don’t know why I was even shocked or outraged. In Bombay housing societies don’t let you in if you’re of the wrong religion or caste. Landlords and landladies in India don’t rent to you because of your caste and religion. Villages are divided according to caste and religion. And now here is this attempt in Hyderabad to segregate rich Brahmins from the rest in order to create “mutual understanding!”
In the Chairman’s message, Dr. Sarma says:
The ultimate purpose of every life unit is realization of the universal and eternal truth. In ancient era Brahman community by and large worked for above goal not only for themselves but also for the entire society.
Really?! We know for a fact that this is not true, and it continues not to be the case. Let’s just forget about the years of caste based discrimination by neatly glossing over it.
He goes on to say:
It is high time for all intellectuals of Brahman community world wide to get above subsects, regions and languages to join hands together and strengthen themselves in every respect to re-establish golden era and uplift entire society from prevailing total unrest indulging in misdeeds for sake of physical pleasures and show the real pathway of life.
Brahmins are going to show the rest of the world how to live by “restablishing a golden era!” By leading by example, and practising caste-based self-segregation, that’s how they’re going to “uplift” society according to Dr. Sarma. I need to go and be sick.
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isn’t this illegal?
A community that consists entirely of Brahmins won’t work. Logistically speaking. They’ll refuse to clean, wipe or lift a finger. Mostly because they’re obviously not poor.
Here’s to a crappy real estate venture that loses all value instantly. Morons.
arrrgh….self-serving little idiots.
Isnt that just the most disgusting thing I’ve heard of! Like Neha says, I hope the properties lose all value!
Interestingly this Malayalam movie has the same storyline as the movie ‘Dor’ by Naagesh Kukunoor. Can’t believe stuff like this continues to happen in this day & age.
Ya, Dor came later.
I read this iniitally and thought it was something to do with a movie. And then re-read the deccan chronicle article twice to find that it’s real. Oh and upliftment. This word upliftment bring in all kinds of weird images in my mind
Of course it’s illegal. Article 15 of the Indian Constitution expressly prohibits discrimination on grounds of caste, creed, religion or sex. Someone should take these guys to court. The site so obviously prohibits non-brahmins from becoming members. A PIL in a High Court (AP, since the company is there) would suffice. This is just…disgusting…
Well these guys have their own view, which is not necessarily wrong. Many brahmins refuse to follow their tradition, because they feel that they will be out of odds with the rest of society. This starts with dressing( which is less importat) and ends up with food( which is disastrous). Only exceptional brahmins inspite of corrpupting influence which rest of society brings have retained their values, but even this is not going to continue fo long. I dont know about this particular agraharam, but agraharams in general, nurture better and more cultured brahmins. It is also a more secure place than outside. Outside you have drunkards, paedophiles, (vulgar show watching) folks and are acessible to even criminals.If I leave my child at a neighbour’s house, I am afraid even today, that they might feed them non veg or egg based products, but this is less likely to happen in agraharam. One of the reasons you see these dirty things, among some bramins, which was uneard of more than a century ago was because they left agraharams to a liberal atmosphere, where nothing is in control.
This cannot be claimed to be casteims and sectarianism.Its just a grouping of like minded people. Is it wrong to live along with one’s own blood relations and members from one’s own genetic pool?
Govind, it’s unbelievable you believe such stuff in this day and age. I suggest you step out of your cocoon and look at the world objectively. All sections of society have their share of drunkards, paedophiles and criminals. If you think Brahmins are all pious and virginal, you are gravely mistaken. Child abuse exists in Brahmin homes just as it exists elsewhere.
I was shocked and scared by this post. Even today the caste takes higher value than education. How can this segregation and proclamation be defended. By the way India is full of Govind’s. Some are well hidden. Some are not. Only a non-brahmin will understand. The caste based segregation in India is worse than the race based in developed countries.
I am sure that the old agraharams were been well maintained devoid of any abuses inside Brahmin families. Whatever Amritha says is only for the sake of saying something. It only shows the hatredness still existing in society for Brahmins! Even in my experience I had known that Non-brahminical families have lot of family cases, and issue in comparision to brahmin family. We must know the fact the brahmin community is the only community in kerala where all women are given exceptional education and respect and self-sufficient to stand up on their own. The recent scenario in Kerala Brahmin Marriage is that the girls decide on whom to marry.
It is evident that currently no one has respect for Brahmins. The Govermnet does wants to take care of poor brahmins. In an recent interview with Karan Thapar, i was amused to read that Mr. Mani Shankar Iyer in the name of secularism told him that he “does not want to take care of Upper caste poor people”….
I was thinking of slapping this secular person
Govind
If this reasoning (according to you) is that they just live in a agraharam bcos they believe the same stuff then wud it be acceptable if a non-brahmin believing in the same things be allowed in society. I doubt that.
These are the sort of segregations that have stratified the Hindu religion from the times of the past.This is the type of practised casteism which has alineated the So called low caste people from the Hindu religion and the christian CONVERSION and the EVANGELICAL activity which is causing an erosion of Hindu community is because of this idiotic pratice.CASTEISM….
Hinduism came down to just 79% (official,actually lot lesser at 74) of the India because of the violent missionary activity among the tribal,scheduled castes and others, and these sects are converting because of the oppression meted out to them from ages from these upper castes..
It;s high time Brahmins shed these idiotic practice..But having said that Kammas,Kapus,Reddys all have their own..Definitely Brahmins are to be blamed for this,but not the only ones…
By the by as far as legality is concerned,it is not illegal.This is just like renting/selling a flat/land.You can rent to people u wish..
Hindus as a whole should stop this evil of Casteism and stop the erosion of their religion from the DANGEROUS PROSELYTISATION activity (done by inducements,coercion,money,all other things)
OMG this is so shocking, so disgusting, and is this Govind guy for real? What a moron. Look at the choice of words, “more secure place than outside. Outside you have drunkards” Outside – Inside, Ergo practice of untouchability caste based prohibition.
What an Irony this is not illegal. But the way to deal with such small people is to shame them…
Lots of them for real, unfortunately. I am getting requests from people who want to join the agraharam who mistakenly think this is the agraharam’s site!
Govind’s comments reflects his ignorance. Agreed Brahmins are better in many ways. But having a gated community does not restrict them from being all the things that Govind is afraid of. Look back , and one can find in the ertwhile AGraharams what kind of culture existed. The kind of abuses and insecurites that existed. The kind of power struggles within the families and jealousies. The social evils exists in those families too but it is suppressed and news does not come out.
No one is perfect, and no one should shut anyone out!
Brahmins should keep the Agraharam idea because of the necessity to exist as a group which needs the support of each other, not necessarily to keep others out. Many rogues of other castes, Reddys, Kammas, Kapus and a few rich BCs which have gained a lot of undeserved wealth, glory, by doing nothing of merit but simply claiming injustice and discrimination, the kind of mentality espoused by the likes of Amrutha et al. In today’s society Brahmins are becoming an endangered tribe, because they do not stick to each other as a group, out of shame imposed by other castes and hence are suffering individually. For caste chauvinists that claim oppression by brahmins, how can a group of people that is not even 10% of the population and holds about 5% of the wealth, dominate and discriminate 90% of the people who hold almost all the wealth in the state. Wake up and look around you and look at all the poverty stricken brahmins around you before you cry out discrimination and supression, we are not living in 2500 BC. Who is getting all the reservations in medical and engineering schools, not brahmins by any means. Today’s brahmins have NOTHING to do with oppression practised by their ancestors, they were not even alive then, and they are being oppressed in return, also they have lost most of the wealth that they supposedly held, due to reverse discrimination by government. All they have is hard work and perseverance which might be the root of all these grievances. Now they are the ones that need support but they are being denied that too. This is nothing but sheer hypocrisy!!!!
Came across this article today…very noble and great idea indeed…It is high time we brahmins stood up for our cause and I believe that this is the first step…
Brahmins have become the Dalits of today for sure…We have a situation where merit has no value; illiterate lower castes holding high positions in government jobs and now even begging for reservation in the private sector…
Enough is Enough….the psedo-secular, power hungry, lower caste polititicians of this country have neglected and deceived the Brahmin for long….
Let this model be replicated all over the country….It is PERFECTLY legal….we have imminent clout in all walks of life…lets see who dares to stop us!
Cheers!
//Brahmins are going to show the rest of the world how to live by “restablishing a golden era!” By leading by example, and practising caste-based self-segregation, that’s how they’re going to “uplift” society according to Dr. Sarma. I need to go and be sick.//
Thanks for sharing and I love the lines above, these lines sum up exactly what the problem is.
Sad that so many of us can’t see this so clearly.
I am a Brahmin and heard such talk occasionally while growing up. This was the reason my parents (and then my brother and I, when we were old enough to understand) distanced themselves(ourselves) from organized religion. This is a sick mentality that holds us back from progress.
It is sad that people hold such thoughts even today.
Everything is wrong with this real estate agraharam – that I say as a brahmin who does his prayers.
Neither most brahmins nor non brahmins understand what varnashrama dharma is all about. That is why all these defences and counter offences.
If sharma really wanted to be a brahmin he would have donated all his wealth and lived in meagre ways. It is not non brahmins who corrupt brahmins, it is money, free time and living life in an easy way.
A far more constructive things to do is for them to send their children to a gurukulam. Once they come of age , they come back to rest of society and contribute. This would really preserve brahminism.
If there is money there would be offences. agreed agraharam and brahmin society might preserve the core cultural values if the people in the agraharam have the core values that define brahminism. That they dont and so the problem…
This is disgusting as much as the reservation, vote bank politics and the corrupting system is.
I don’t think we carry anything from our birth including our nationality which seems to be a rather sharp coincidence to the choice our parents make. It would make a ton of difference if each one of us starts looking at others as a human and leave out all these labels – brahmins, dalits, straight, gays, cis, trans, Indian, American, whatever…
Rashmi, I support reservation, because I think it is necessary, though like you I hope we one day have a world without all these constraining labels.
That is funny. You support discrimination against Brahmins but not for Brahmins.
No, I do not. In the Agraharam example, non-Brahmins are not allowed in at all. Reservation is an attempt to allow people who have traditionally been discriminated against an opportunity at an education, it does not set out to exclude Brahmins, who are allowed into the same educational institutions.
That justification does not say reservation is not discrimination. Hope fully it does not end up in cycles.
I agree with Govindin some ways though. Take the example that a brahmin until he reaches a marriageable age should not have had any sexual thoughts. How is such a situation possible outside an agraharam? Until a person reaches a high mental control he should not even smell rotten flesh and meat being sold around? How is it possible outside an agraharam? From school times to college and elsewhere 50% of the time people converse about cinema, love and wordly things which only pull an individual’s base instincts.In the ancient times the brahmins used to dwell in forests. But we now have very few forests and there is government and tribal control on that part too.
Ideally speaking we can speak of global adjustment and accomodation but the entire world should atleast agree that they must live as per certains standards. This they dont want to. People want to drink,people want to do all the unholy and indiscoplined things whatever comes to their mind etc. People have seen what happens outside an agraharam and that is why they have decided to go back. It is sad but the rest of society wants to live in an indisciplined way. who is to blame? Outdated practices need to go away. But when did core values like discipline ,daily prayer, shielding young children from cinema,love and to maintain their physical virginity. Just to make it clear that even non hindu religions prohibits masturbation for instance but ask the conscience of the people here? so when did all these core disciplines that people should follow become backward.
Another question for your conscience? How will fellow classmates in a school react to a boy who says , in the afternoon , I shall recite my madhyanikam and then do prayer and perform the rites before having food. Do the schools like boys having tuft on their head. Do they allow breaks for brahmin children to do their prayers without ridicule.On the contrary they are even secular schools like delhi public school which ban bindhis and bangles and flowers on head for girls. a brahmin boy may be interested in wearing only a khadi dhoti and go to school. even if the boy himself wants to do it not because of parental pressure, the school does not let him! Okay coming back to school, the teachers in school are quite often insensitive to students who come from different backgrounds. Then again they force children to wear leather shoes whereas brahmacharis are not supposed to wear them.
Then outside school even if parents bring up their children properly, many not all children use dirty language against their fellow friends. I have even heard 6th graders use words like bastard etc. Then when a brahmin gets up to do puja in his apartment he has to bear the smell of meat and fish being fried in his neighbours home.we all know that the neighbour is overall a good person and toleraten but is that good for our pujas and spiritual progress? There have been power politics and wrong aspects in agraharams as well. But compare the number of brahmins who used to regularly perform gayatri, had kala in their face,who stayed away from intoxicants and meat with present generation.
In my grandfather’s time many brahmins were ekasanthigrahi means hear once and remember it. I am personally aware of such people. Today there may be brahmins who go to MIT or Berkely but find out how much of razor sharp memory they have.Infact if a person has any kind of sexual experiences his memory goes down. ask the modern brahmins to unzip their shirt and bear chested show themselves to their elders. You will see that their entire body is completely in wrong shape. One can immediately point out one’s habits by looking at the figure of the individual’s stomach.
Enough talk! If culture of general society has degenerated , then those for whom culture matters have to withdraw. superstitions aside, when did discipline in day to day life, brahmacharya, chastity,daily systematic prayers, meat and intoxicant free life , abstinance in the real sense mentally from all unholy thoughts(including love and sex related songs) all this become backward. These are the only indications that an individual is not an animal. If people dont want to reform atleast let them keep quiet and allow people who want to reform to withdraw into their agraharams.who is to blame. Just dont keep critiscizing those brahmins who want to reform and make sure that their children dont go the wrong way. It may sound backward, but if rest of society throw poison at each other and refuse to listen to good advice, those who want to avoid must keep off. Its not apartheid,its self apartheid where the brahmins themselves are withdrawing , they are not chucking out others but keeping out only when they have realized what is happening outside is beyond their control
Anon,
You have commented before on this thread as Hari. For continuity’s sake it’s better if you post under the same name each time. Will answer your comment in a couple of days when I have some more time.
Thanks
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I have read most of th comments made.Every one has thier own views.Allrich are not brahmins and all brahmins are not rich.I dont think any thing wrong if a community is having thier own town ship.All the people written against this cannot disagree to the fact that caste/religions play a major role in every one’s life.Some of the comments are just showing anger on brahmin community and nothing else.One is truth it is not harming any other community in society.Then where is the problem?
I have read all the comments and replies about this Agraharam society, I myself had a visit to this place which i feel is a small community where like minded brahmins wants to live, it doesnt reflet whole of brahmin community as discussed in columns here. Many poor Brahmin students even though meritorious could not get seats in scholls and colleges because of reservations, who cannot pay huge fee in private institutions nor get a seat in open quota, poor students how they will survive?.I feel this is a good cause Dr.Sharma thought to help the students by providing colleges/institution in this Agraharams, it is just like what we have Minority instutuions in india? can any student other than muslims get admissions in this institutions? why can`t we question this even though their population is not in minority. I surely suggest this is a baseless alegation on brahmins! I personally spoke to Dr.Sharma, its not like what people in this columns think or seen in movies how a Agraharam look like , but its different, there is no restrictions for others cast people to enter, they do! I have seen it,. People are forgetting that in india there are other societies as well strictly restricted to their own communities? please check for them personally, you will come to know.
,it is a very good idea to bring all the brahmins under one roof i.e,under dhanwantari.my heartiest and humble salutations to sri kamalakara sarma garu.go ahead and leave the criticism behind.so called criticisers should shut their mouth and try to bring the downtrodden to a better position in their community.A brahmin gets into an elevated position by virtue of his karma or actions,not by any simple means.even a brahmin is born as sudra.the government itself is discriminating the people by providing reservations.so what is the problem to the others if we the Brahmins choose our own way.And that way is The Dhanwantari. Sarve janah sukhino bhavantu.
So, finally I ended up in a discussion with a cult of brainwashed bunch of modern education. Well, I don’t have to participate, but I still hope people look/think out of the box instead of faking so called political correctness.
Anyone, please tell me a reason how a caste based system is worse than a wealth based system, where people are getting exploited for materialistic/physical benefits not only in India but also throughout the world. Please show me a single country where there is no societal discrimination, even though there are no casts. Please show me any cast in India where there are no bad guys at all in the whole community.
Please don’t talk off top of your head, simply because it’s something you were told/programmed, instead use your grey matter (if you still have any functional one), research logically and try to understand the situation as a whole.
Yes, if there are bad guys at all, there are everywhere irrespective of cast or religion or colour. So, it’s a mere ignorance to judge someone based on their physical traits or social norms
You know what?? We, people who are following Vedic culture, have been invaded from past 2000 years or so, either physically or culturally, but still our culture have been surviving and trying to adapt to the change. Have you ever thought how we had been managing this, where as many great cultures in the world had vanished either because of holy wars or insatiable greed for wealth accumulation??
My logical answer for this astonishing fact is, our cultural knowledge base had divided and further divided in to masses which made hard for invaders to completely eradicate our culture from the earth, even though the culture underwent lots of stress and strain. At the same time, the same barbaric invaders had succeeded in iradicating many unknown cultures from the earth either by killing local people (Ex.Zorastrians in Iran, Hindus in Kashmir and present day Pakistan) or forcefully converted those to their own religions. I have read somewhere, when Babar had invaded India, he killed lakhs of people mainly Brahmins, but the very event didn’t affect our culture on the whole (but it was very significant and mostly ignored event of the history), the reason is our knowledge is pervasive, unlike many other vanished cultures where, the knowledge related to a culture predominantly with a particular group of people/heads and the rest are simple followers. Knocking off those heads used to result the submission of whole culture.
Yes, our knowledge base is pervasive, it was achieved by dividing and sub dividing people based on their profession and expertise. It was done with mutual respect and dignity, that’s the very reason why few people used to feel proud about their cast (Well, the initial proudness was because of their contributions to the society, eventually it turned out be a false proud to show off the material/knowledge gains) They used to acknowledge each and every member of a cast is an important part and participle of the whole society. In fact the very foundation of society was based on wealth distribution unlike western model of wealth creation. That is how we, the people of native culture of India, developed the great engineering structures, of course many were destroyed during foreign invasions, invented zero and invented plastic surgery so on so forth. Whatever our achievements in the past, it was all done by involving each and every cast directly or indirectly. Whatever we, not only Indians but also foreigners, have been enjoying the fruits of our culture either Ayurveda or Patanjali yoga sastra, it’s the result of collective work/suffering of people down the line to pass that knowledge to us.
(Enthusiasts please feel free to watch Discovery programme on Bridiswaralayam temple. Could you believe in Tanjavur there are families of Goldsmiths still following the same sustainable methods of more than 1000 years for making things? Do you believe, in Khajaraho even today, the sculptors following the same methods for complex carvings, which are not possible in modern methods? (Well, as per that Documentary)
How did it possible??
The knowledge was passed from generations after generations, father to son, Guru to Sishya, mother to daughter, parents to kids. (Of course now we, both you and me, are betrayers of our ancestors by destroying that chain) They achieved this by passing the knowledge, either it is materialistic or spiritual, in the same cast to provide job security and enhance the expertise by training kids since the day they born. Of course many of you know the current state of professions in western system, where a PhD fellow doesn’t have to know each and everything he is working on, other than giving references from the past work (Here, I am just giving an example in sarcasm, you try to read between the lines) and a Doctors doesn’t have to know each and everything what is he doing. (Yes, I worked in hospitals, I know, how Docs take a chance, more often than not, to treat patients) However, as per our Vedic system, the doors arenot completely closed for a person who has got zeal to learn the skills which are not belong to his own cast. There are plenty of examples in our literature where people had tried to acquire skills of other cast’s professions. To name a few Valmiki, hunter turned to a saint,Viswamitra, a Kshatriya turned to a Brahmarshi, Dronacharya, a Brahmin teacher took a side in a war and fought, which was not really he supposed to do as a Brahmin. Another reason for our cultural survival is tremendous adaptability, how did it possible? The very same reason, the People and methods we follow
Anomalies!!
Well, things change with time, there were/are always selfish people out there, who try to exploit the system for their own benefit. In fact this cast issue has started getting ugly only after invasions in India especially the British, who had tried very hard to exploit people based on cast, as their policy was divide and conquer. Eventually they have been succeeding by creating heaps of brainwashed breeds with their so called (pseudo) western education. If a system has got exploited for a selfish reason, it doesn’t have to mean the system itself is bad, after all a system depends on how it was used and operated (Best example is Indian so called Democracy and secularism) So all I want to say is, please don’t blame a system which, apparently worked in the past, but eventually got exploited by people for various reasons. If you don’t like a system, simple, you don’t follow it and take responsibility for your own actions but don’t pass the judgements on others.
I request everyone to read this small book “Sindh and the Races That Inhabit the Valley of the Indus (1851)’ by Richard Francis Burton. It would give you a vague idea, how things were hostile for our people and culture during invasions in India and how our ancestors struggled to keep the culture alive under severe hostility. Even though, the book was about Sindh, if you know the art of fertile imagination, I am sure you could realise those were the conditions in entire India where there was a Muslim rule .It’s easy to sit on our fat a$$ and pass judgements on others, but in reality, the people who were experienced the situation would know better.
At least DFI are trying to do something in a bid to revive our dying culture, where as our so called Gvts are busy in minting money from people and the very people are busy in talking like you and me without having any understanding of ground reality. You know what? Half knowledge is very dangerous for self as well as for the society and talking off the head is much easier, but using logic, doing some research, dig out the events which led us to the present scenario is harder, which require lots of efforts, credibility and sacrifice .Westerners, except few, did not consider our culture before formulating any of rules and regulations in India, that’s understandable (How one could expect an invader do any good to the country/culture?) The irony is, even the local rulers have been doing nothing in that direction other than simply implementing westerner ideology. The current Indian situation speaks volumes about it.
Anyway they say ‘haters gonna hate’, but I still hope people see events collectively rather than thinking with a prejudice, to understand the scenario better. (Yeah, it reminded me something, I came across- A research paper on how the Asians look/understand and the westerners do the same. The results are Asians, the sample was Chinese, think look/think collectively, where as westerners, the sample was American Whites, do the same individually but in a detailed way.
P.S .My apologies if I am sarcastic in my post, hope people think logically.
Opps…it’s caste not cast* doh!
Your post has gone beyond sarcasm, you have made silly personal attacks about the state of people’s brains and their (non) functioning gray matter. You too can make a logical argument (I hope) as you exhort others to do, without resorting to such playground abuse.
I don’t have the time to answer you at length.
Yes, wealth based segregation exists as well. This post was not about that. That doesn’t mean people are denying that it exists!
The history of the caste system is complicated and indeed it was affected by the colonial presence in India. Yes, people were able to transcend caste boundaries and do other things. However, this history also contains a great many examples of exploitation and discrimination that carry on to this day, and these are not best addressed by building agraharams of the kind discussed.
It’s very easy to say if you don’t like a system don’t follow it-when in practice this system results in the exploitation of people who actually don’t want to follow it or be subject to its discriminatory practices or perhaps you live in a bubble where you have not noticed this?